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Although I've thought about it and read on the topic quite a bit, I really don't know what "free will" is. If it's some kind of uncaused cause within me, then I don't believe I have it. If it is taken to mean that I am a causal agent, then I have it. I don't find it a very useful concept. Being a causal agent comes in degrees and in some ways we clearly are not fully free.

I do not know that I'm not living in a simulation. I do not buy the argument that I probably am. I don't any particular reason to believe it but neither can I disprove it. I agree with David Chalmers that it doesn't really make a difference. Even if this universe is a "simulation", it's real from our point of view. I recommend his book, Reality+.

https://www.amazon.com/Reality-Virtual-Worlds-Problems-Philosophy-ebook/dp/B098TY2C1C

I'm sure that current computers do not have consciousness but I see no reason to declare that they never will regardless of physical instantiation. It really seems odd that we are able to think using three pounds of meat.

https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html

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What do I say about this? Rather, allow me to say what Nietzsche says. Or more honestly, my interpretation of that.

First, a disclaimer: I have no formal training in philosophy. What I DO have, however, is extensive reading of one philosopher, Nietzsche. Even granted that, I don’t have final knowledge. But I do feel qualified to pass on some of his teachings.

He questioned everything, to include the commonly held beliefs that free will exists. He distrusted “immediate certainty” such as that one. Further, his criticism of philosophers extends far beyond Kant. He skewers diverse thinkers and their beliefs.

I share some of Nietzsche’s opinions, such as that A Priori Synthetic Knowledge should not be possible. Why did Kant propose this? I’m reading just a bit in here, but only some: Kant and the 18th century “romantic” German philosophers were aware that earlier dreams of philosophy – the claim that extant philosophy could PROVE the existence of God, of the Soul, and the "World Whole" [which is???] – were under attack by enlightenment science in general and in particular by newer philosophy (Pragmatism? Empricism?) of English thinkers such as Locke and Hume.

If you learn nothing else from Nietzsche, it should be this: Philosphers (and anyone else) are vulnerable to "prejudices" -- that is, preconceptions about what should be true. Instincts and subconscious forces are always operative and drive even apparent disciplined rational thought. As a result, Nietzsche argues that we should not ask (for example) whether A Priori Synthetic Knowledge is possible. We should ask why we (or Kant) believes it ought to exist. What unacknowledged or otherwise hidden physiological and/or psychological needs are trying to be answered? Yes boys and girls, it turns out that we humans like to make up our own fantasies and use any tool at hand to justify them.

One of many pithy quotes attributed to Einstein is (approximately): "Science is not finding the answer you want to be there. It's finding the answer that is there."

Kant’s contribution, argues Nietzsche, was that he essentially constructed an elaborate, apparently thorough, but ultimately fraudulent edifice that appeared to validate these earlier theological beliefs. Not only Kant, but much other human wisdom is built upon sand, so to speak. I don’t even claim to “understand” Kant’s arcane arguments; I only have a few secondhand summaries, no doubt biased ones. But I’ve grasped a few key concepts, and I reject them as nonsense. Now, it’s possible I misunderstand them, but here are my interpretations.

The existence of a priori synthetic knowledge. Basically if you analyze the meaning of the component terms, the claim is that it's possible to have access to knowledge that's only knowable by investigation, without having to do the investigation. Color me just a bit skeptical.

[Rather than quote, click on the link and search for “11.” This key passage trashes Kant quite handily. Kant not only is guilty of circular argument, he also “discovered” (or did he “invent” – quite a difference!) not one, but two “faculties” of the human intellect. Sure he did!

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/4363/pg4363-images.html

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The Universal Imperative: I’m a bit fuzzy on this one; Kant seems to be arguing that there is a universal standard, that all human beings hold the same values. Now let me see if I get this: billions of autonomous human beings, each with unique experiences and minds, and yet they all hold some core values, shared by all? That is such a silly idea; I will leave it for others to dissect.

The Thing-in-Itself which I think is similar to Plato’s “Forms”. Do pure concepts exist? Sure they do, as abstractions in the mind. But we rapidly wade into troubles if we think these have independent existence on their own. Again, I’m foggy on these aspects and leave the arguments to the propeller heads.

For the interested, probably his best single book is Beyond Good and Evil, although you can find bits of it in his many other books. It’s not easy reading; some points I was only able to grasp with a commentary/study guide.

All that said, I realize that Kant is one of the major “modern” philosophers. But that by no means exempts him – or any other thinker – from self-delusion and promoting ideas that don’t’ hold up to scrutiny.

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