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Madhava Setty, MD's avatar

I am very happy you wrote this up Josh. How was your presentation at Brownstone received? This is an incredibly important topic. Thank you for educating us.

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Dave in Seattle's avatar

I've been an election monitor for the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) and have observed various elections (national and local) in Ukraine, Moldova and Montenegro. In none of those elections were mail in ballots allowed. I believe that was an OSCE rule - although it could have been a national rule based on OSCE advice. The point being, voter fraud is very easy to commit with mail in ballots, thus they weren't allowed in these newly "democratic" countries. All of the elections used paper ballots and were hand counted with results in by the next morning. The only allowance for non-in person voting was for the infirm, disabled, elderly-they had to apply for in home voting with their local election board. Then an election official and two or three observers from the various political parties would go to their homes with blank ballots and allow these people to vote. The ballots put in small, locked ballot boxes and taken back to the local election center. This might be a 20 or 30 ballots in a small town.

Essentially, all voting was done in person and with many observers in the election hall watching. Citizens and observers could see how many people came in to vote and thus how many ballots should be in the box at the end of the night.

As an observer, I was very impressed - it was transparent, orderly well run. If fraud occurred it happened at regional or national electoral centers. But because of the paper ballots, the lack of voting machines - audits and recounts could be done easily and quickly.

In contrast, Washington State, where I live is all done by mail in ballots, no in person voting allowed and counted by computers. It's also a one party state-not one state official is a republican. The only security protocol in this system is a signature check, supposedly looked at by an election official. That's it. So, its the honor system-and this system would not be accepted by the OSCE or in a small town in Moldova. Too many ways for fraud to occur and I believe they do.

Just a quick anecdote about our democracy in Washington State. Dino Rossi was the Republican candidate for governor in 2004- a mild mannered,middle of the road, pro-business type - and he won the election by a small margin. Then a day or two after the election, King county where Seattle is located happened to find a large mail bag or box of "uncounted ballots", just enough to push Rossi's Democratic opponent to victory. Something straight out of Mayor Daley's playbook in Chicago.

I don't trust a word from any of the local Democratic hacks running things in Seattle or Olympia nowadays. And I'm old enough to remember when Washington was really well run by both Republicans and Democrats. Now its just as awful as California-homelessness, drug addiction, prostitution, non-stop traffic, violent crime, high taxes, our beautiful forests destroyed for strip malls and horrendous apartment complexes. And nobody voted for any of this. "Democracy" at work.

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