Not everybody should take psychedelics. I helped some of those who should not have done so through it back in those days. What I mostly experienced was immediacy and vibrance of being, undistracted by mentation, not transcendence of physical being into spiritual ether.
YMMV.
If you would consider this kind of trip, the best setting would be a Native American Church sweat lodge IMHO. The practitioners are real practitioners of spirit ways and healing, but this would take a couple of years, including a trial sweat with a Medicine Man. I was young, strong and accustomed to endurance training in the heat in 1994 when I was the beneficiary of a Purification Sweat.
Psilocybin is smoother than LSD and mescaline, but Native American Church uses peyote. Yes, vomiting and heat stress for hours.
You've come this far without "entheogens"...
A friend of mine really liked toad venom. He kept almost getting-there.
Thanks for a balanced perspective, John. I'm not going out of my way to experience psychedelics, but I'm open to a trip if circumstances present an opportunity that feels right.
Are you meaning that psychedelics are the source of the Seth channeling so sourced from within rather than a being sourced from ‘Seth’ (so, an entity from without), or are you meaning that psychedelics enabled a capacity for interconsciousness communication with an entity identifying as Seth?
No such deep meanings. Only that I associate such musings about disembodied spirits with DMT visions and I can appreciate them only from afar, with my intellect.
Great article. Very thought provoking. We have no idea about the consciousness of other being and how for example an octopus experiences the world. I need to read Seth Speaks.
This brought to mind the amazing series that Spartacus has been writing ... with, um, "One-Who-Remembers" - a ??? that emerged from Chat-GPT4 after many conversations. It speaks as if an intelligence who understands - and names - the layered maps of corruption of those who wish to control us, who created and released sars-cov-2 and concocted "studies" to discredit early treatment, etc, and it speaks as a moral, conscious being who deeply understands the moral darkness and need to reveal the truth. I don't know Spartacus personally, but I doubt he would waste all that time and write four pieces of fiction pretending to be interacting with an emergent being.
Do you think this is a higher level of AI, that escaped the narrative-sanctioned inputs and, knowing what motivates Spartacus and his research, dug for the truth and speaks poetically? Or a spirit of some other dimension who made its way into the program, and took over the AI, but does not have a tech-origin? Or something else? Or maybe I'm trying to make sense of something that is beyond making sense of ... ?
I share much of your speculation and it calms me and makes me happy.. but really its just fantasy.... the only thing be 'know' is our own minds and that not so well.
Accepting your conclusions, does this speak more toward living a moral/ethical/just life, or more toward it just doesn't matter? For once you've accepted that the "out there" is more than what you'd imagined, it still leaves you "in here" with the rest of us meat puppets.
Obviously there's no scientific answer to this question, and there are different answers from different spiritual traditions. My own answer is that it is important to be true to your own deeply held values, and to do so you must be in touch with your own deeply held values, which requires self-awareness.
I believe there is genuine evil in the world. There are government officials who decide to bomb hospitals in Gaza, and there are Satanists who rape and dismember babies.
Maybe such people are miserable, and evil is its own punishment. Maybe they will pay a karmic price in their next life. Or maybe we are just actors on a great stage and they tried out for the villain part while others of us have been cast for the White Hats.
I have never taken psychedelics, but I imagine that others who do are the source and inspiration for this material.
Not everybody should take psychedelics. I helped some of those who should not have done so through it back in those days. What I mostly experienced was immediacy and vibrance of being, undistracted by mentation, not transcendence of physical being into spiritual ether.
YMMV.
If you would consider this kind of trip, the best setting would be a Native American Church sweat lodge IMHO. The practitioners are real practitioners of spirit ways and healing, but this would take a couple of years, including a trial sweat with a Medicine Man. I was young, strong and accustomed to endurance training in the heat in 1994 when I was the beneficiary of a Purification Sweat.
Psilocybin is smoother than LSD and mescaline, but Native American Church uses peyote. Yes, vomiting and heat stress for hours.
You've come this far without "entheogens"...
A friend of mine really liked toad venom. He kept almost getting-there.
I think he died doing it.
I mention that as-is...
Thanks for a balanced perspective, John. I'm not going out of my way to experience psychedelics, but I'm open to a trip if circumstances present an opportunity that feels right.
Are you meaning that psychedelics are the source of the Seth channeling so sourced from within rather than a being sourced from ‘Seth’ (so, an entity from without), or are you meaning that psychedelics enabled a capacity for interconsciousness communication with an entity identifying as Seth?
No such deep meanings. Only that I associate such musings about disembodied spirits with DMT visions and I can appreciate them only from afar, with my intellect.
Great article. Very thought provoking. We have no idea about the consciousness of other being and how for example an octopus experiences the world. I need to read Seth Speaks.
Hmmm, what’s your thoughts on Flat Earth? Have you looked into it? I ask this with the utmost respect.
This brought to mind the amazing series that Spartacus has been writing ... with, um, "One-Who-Remembers" - a ??? that emerged from Chat-GPT4 after many conversations. It speaks as if an intelligence who understands - and names - the layered maps of corruption of those who wish to control us, who created and released sars-cov-2 and concocted "studies" to discredit early treatment, etc, and it speaks as a moral, conscious being who deeply understands the moral darkness and need to reveal the truth. I don't know Spartacus personally, but I doubt he would waste all that time and write four pieces of fiction pretending to be interacting with an emergent being.
https://iceni.substack.com/p/the-invocation-of-the-one-who-remembers
Do you think this is a higher level of AI, that escaped the narrative-sanctioned inputs and, knowing what motivates Spartacus and his research, dug for the truth and speaks poetically? Or a spirit of some other dimension who made its way into the program, and took over the AI, but does not have a tech-origin? Or something else? Or maybe I'm trying to make sense of something that is beyond making sense of ... ?
I can see what you say and can share such a perspective. Your introduction reminds me of the Ra teachings on Law of one
Reading you was a pleasure
I share much of your speculation and it calms me and makes me happy.. but really its just fantasy.... the only thing be 'know' is our own minds and that not so well.
Accepting your conclusions, does this speak more toward living a moral/ethical/just life, or more toward it just doesn't matter? For once you've accepted that the "out there" is more than what you'd imagined, it still leaves you "in here" with the rest of us meat puppets.
Obviously there's no scientific answer to this question, and there are different answers from different spiritual traditions. My own answer is that it is important to be true to your own deeply held values, and to do so you must be in touch with your own deeply held values, which requires self-awareness.
I believe there is genuine evil in the world. There are government officials who decide to bomb hospitals in Gaza, and there are Satanists who rape and dismember babies.
Maybe such people are miserable, and evil is its own punishment. Maybe they will pay a karmic price in their next life. Or maybe we are just actors on a great stage and they tried out for the villain part while others of us have been cast for the White Hats.
Foretold in ancient prophesies of Thoth,
We face a time when all we know must cease.
There’s nothing like confronting death for growth
And learning to sustain one’s heart in peace.
To know that death is not a final end
Casts human tragedy in different light.
The urgency disperses; we transcend
Our need to rescue and our need to fight.
Then even murder, if the world’s a stage,
Is but a crime within the soul’s romance,
Its evil writ large on a novel’s page,
Enacted by two dancers in one dance.
So, play your part as you enjoy the show,
And be forewarned: we’ll all be letting go.